T.T.’s cancels Friday’s sold-out Cold Cave show due to concerns over opener Boyd Rice

 
 

UPDATE, June 27, 11:39am: There is word the show could be moved to a different venue. We’ll post the info as soon as we can confirm it. _Michael

UPDATE #2, June 27, 5:04pm: The show is unlikely to be moved; TT’s has replaced it with a benefit for Rosie’s Place, a Boston women’s shelter


Friday’s COLD CAVE show at T.T. The Bear’s Place in Cambridge has been completely sold out for a few weeks. But with the event less than 48 hours away, now the show isn’t happening at all, and it has little to do specifically with Wes Eisold’s synthpop band. The Central Square venue’s management have raised questions and concerns over the opening act, controversial noise artist Boyd Rice.

A similar cancellation happened for a June 19 show at Morgan’s Pier in Philadelphia, and a gig in Chicago on Monday was disrupted after a smoke bomb went off just as Rice was about to hit the stage. Shows this week in Montreal and Toronto have also been called off, according to Chart Attack.

Rice, a one-time collaborator with British experimental band Death in June, has been tied to Nazi and Satanic groups in the past, and has been labeled as a misogynist who speaks out against women and supports rape culture.

“We’ve made the decision we didn’t want this person in the room,” T.T.’s manager Kevin Patey told Vanyaland. “After researching the artist and discussing it with promoters in other cities, we made it clear to the agent that we didn’t want this person to perform at our venue. We weren’t canceling Cold Cave, but the agent said the show wouldn’t happen without the opener. It was the agent’s decision. So regrettably, the show was cancelled.”

There is word that T.T.’s will fill Friday’s suddenly-vacant date with Boston bands playing a fund raiser for local womens’ groups and/or shelters in need.

Refunds to the originally scheduled Cold Cave show are available at the point of purchase.

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  1. good for kevin and tt’s and fuck boyd rice. “supports rape culture”? get the fuck out of my city you piece of shit loser closet case

    1. pretty cool move there; responding positively to what many would consider a “feminist” cause, and then turning around and finishing it off by dropping a homophobe bomb. A++.

  2. Lets hear it for the benefit. Sounds fun.

    Was pitched opener (w/o Cold Cave) and passed, but only after we all did some research.

    Bad news for Cold Cave fans, but cheers to the venue for doing the right thing.

    1. Pandering to LOSERS is the right thing apparently? Please play more boring indie rock that won’t offend the proles.

        1. Clearly, this is not actually ning nong. Actual ning nong would never slag indie rock. Ask his record collection.

          Also, “proles?” Really? Not approved ning nong vocabulary.

      1. Hi , this is ning nong, of Heaven Street Records etc in NYC, and i did not, and would not, write any of my thoughts on this, or any other subject, in this forum. Also, I am not 40 til January.

  3. have any of you guys actually researched his “ties?” just because his art talks about it doesnt mean he lives it. death metal bands write about cutting peoples penises off and eating them. country bands write love songs about people that don’t exist. rappers rap about having money they dont have and killing people they wont actually kill. its music, its art, and none of it claims to be non-fiction or a direct representation of the lifestyle of the creator. boyd has spoken out against misogyny and racism recently, anyway. before this tour even started. it was hazy for a while as to what he actually believed but there are blog entries written by himself that this isn’t true. fuck the venue. this was a terrible idea. they should still do the fundraiser…just not in spite of boyd.

    p.s. i don’t listen to boyd’s material and i’m frankly not a huge fan. i could have seen him in chicago but i gave away my tickets (that i acquired so i could see cold cave) because i was worn out from being out all day. so this is as unbiased as i can make it.

    1. Indeed, Justin.

      “Chrisbrat” and “Claynferno” can go talk to their echo chamber and feel good about themselves and the silly, impotent musical offerings typically peddled in Boston venues such as T.T.’s and the Middle East.

      Please, for the love of “god”, boycott T.T.’s for this. If they’re going to ban artists because their work makes people uneasy, then please, they need to close their doors. They’re getting in the way of adults.

    1. So let me get this straight when a promoter gets an email from a band who promotes content that they don’t want associated with their place of employment, and decides not to have them on the show, is that censorship too? The government isn’t limiting this guy’s free speech.

  4. “We’ve made the decision we didn’t want this person in the room,”

    Let’s hear it for free speech and a culture of open debate and tolerance.

      1. It seems to me that the venue is cancelling at this late stage because of previous cancellations on the tour, fear of protests, and bad publicity. I accept their right to choose who they want to play there, but what is happening at large is that we are creating a culture where there is decreasing exchange of opinions and diversity of ideas, out of fear.

        So yes, I guess what I think of as free speech is very different than your idea of it.

  5. This has nothing to do with “free speech” a club has the right to chose who it wants to have play. No one is robbing rice of his free speech.

  6. I’m pretty sure some of the employees of TTs are women. Is TTs supposed to create a hostile work environment just so they aren’t labelled “cowardly and reprehensible?”

    1. It is a club, supposedly for artists to perform in. If a person needs to be shielded from anything that might put them out of their emotional comfort zone, they can find work elsewhere. Maybe in a cubicle.

      1. What an idiotic statement. A club is a privately owned business whose purpose is to provide a service to customers and make money, and they can ultimately do whatever they want in order to facilitate that. It has nothing to do with some patronizing idea of “being put out of your comfort zone.” It has to do with a business doing what they think is best for their own interests? Don’t like it? Start your own club and put on your own shows and book whatever artists you feel like booking.

  7. There’s a difference between free speech and wanting to encourage hateful speech. Boyd Rice is an active proponent of nazism and rape culture, and no venue is under an obligation to give him a platform from which to preach. Search for “Revolt Against Penis Envy” if you want a weird taste of what this man promotes.

    1. do you understand the difference between being a proponent of something and satirizing it? i cannot believe how so many people think this guy is actually a proponent of these things. it’s exactly the opposite. it’s akin to thinking stephen colbert is a staunch neocon.

      1. You should probably do better research. He has time and again confirmed his ideas in countless interviews. He’s no William Bennett.

  8. Free speech means the govt can’t prosecute you for speech. It doesn’t mean you’re free to use any venue or that youre exempt from being called out for being an asshole.

    1. Yes, I am aware of that definition. The greater issue here, and I’m aware that you may be incapable of subtle thinking, is that when venues decide to cancel shows at the last minute because of fears of public disapproval and reprisal, artists may feel less free to create work that expresses their ideas, and the public is denied the opportunity to this range of diverse ideas.

      1. You mean the range of diverse ideas like,” women should be raped into submission, into their lower position beneath men, as they possess no intellect and only react to emotions such as fear and pain?” I’m all for artistic expression and fully understand art isn’t always comfortable, but let’s not get it twisted – this is simply a hateful agenda disguised as art. This is about as anti-intellectual as it gets.

      2. I happen to know that it wasn’t canceled because of concerns about public response. It was canceled because the people who operate the venue are personally not okay with it. It isn’t just being afraid to allow it to happen, it’s straight-up not wanting to give this guy a platform.

        1. If that is the case I’d be interested to know why they cancelled it only two days before, and didn’t simply decline to book the show in the first place.

          1. It was booked by an agency. The venue only learned about the opener, who was somewhat recently added right before they canceled it.

  9. i wouldn’t say that boyd rice “speaks out against women” or is a “supporter of rape culture” so much as he is “just a guy who has been making music since being subversive was a thing you could do without being sensationalized by 22 year olds who have tumblr” and is a “supporter of tiki bars”

  10. R.A.P.E.
    (Revolt Against Penis Envy)
    Contributing Toward an Understanding of Male/Female Harmony
    by BOYD RICE

    “In a once – glorious past, woman was a creature without rights, a second – class citizen. In some places, she wasn’t considered a citizen at all – she was property. She was part cook, part whore, part servant, and all child. So what has changed to put woman on an equal footing with man, deserving of the same rights and privileges? Has woman herself changed? Decidedly not. Not in temperament, character, or ability. She is the same creature she has always been, with the sad addition of some rather unflattering conceits […] Rape is the act by which fear and pain are united in love. It is the triumph of harmony through oppression. Rape teaches balance, the natural balance of man=above/woman=below. This balance is a lesson which woman must learn, and only man can teach her […] The only way to teach subjugation is through hands on oppression. And woman must learn subjugation. The only way to teach submission is through active domination. She must be brought down to her natural kneeling position. Only then may man be happy once more. If it takes war to reinstate this happiness, then let there be war. Not a war between the sexes, but a war of the sexes, against the pernicious doctrine of sexual equality. And if the chief weapon in this war is rape, then let there be rape. Let there be triumphant male force riding roughshod over woman and her values. Let there be brutal male force instructing and enlightening woman in absolute terms. Each rape is but a battle in a war. And each battle won is but a link in a glorious chain – a chain which will one day be used to keep woman in her naturally ordained place – beneath man […] Long live rape!”

    And here’s an interview where he’s like “I’m dead serious about this whole rape thing.”
    http://www.boydrice.com/interviews/misanthrope.html

    SOOOOOOO let’s keep talking about how great of an artist Boyd is and how he is just “pretending” to support rape culture in the name of his “art”.

    1. ‘It was really sort of taking Andrea Dworkin and those kind of extreme feminists and saying, “Okay, yes, let’s say everything you say is true. It’s true but it’s good. It should be that way. Men are fascist assholes. Yes, and men are all not only rapists, but they should be rapists.”‘

      The only product of boycotting Rice is the perception by a certain (and fairly small, if that is important to you) group that you are weak.

      I wouldn’t think much about it beyond that, because that’s aggravating and annoying.

      1. As revealed in Misanthrope:
        Back to the rumours. Are you a misogynist?
        “Yeah.” Nods fervently for the record. [Laughs.] “Yeah, more and more all the time.”
        What makes you feel that way?
        “Just a lot of experience with women. I don’t think women deserve the same rights as men. I don’t think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they’re totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control.”
        And regarding his piece “R.A.P.E.”, which is appallingly pro-rape but allegedly tongue-in-cheek: “I was poking a bit of fun, but it’s like there’s more than a grain of truth in everything I said in there. I think all the stuff I said was basically true. Which is why it’s funny when it’s funny. And it’s why it upsets women, when it upsets women. Because, you know, they can’t really deny most of that stuff. ”
        “Well that’s why when women start having these intellectual arguments with me I say at a certain point, “Listen, I refuse to even argue with a woman.” They say, “Well, why is that?” and I say, “Because you overreact, you get all emotional, and fly into a tizzy.”

        Nope sorry, still a misogynist piece of shit.

  11. I guess I was unaware of the rule that if you own and operate a performance space you need to keep it available for use by anyone who calls themselves an artist despite what they may be saying. Oh, and then you should pay them for it. Or you’re a fascist.

    1. Yea, and if you have a lunch counter you’re supposed to serve everyone, right? The FACT of this case is that they booked the show, it sold out quick and then TTs backed out after hypocritical leftists disrupted other shows. They simply didn’t have the guts to put on the show, they were afraid not upset at the content. Anyone who thinks they suddenly found out Boyd Rice said Hitler wasn’t so bad and date rape is fake and had a change of heart is an idiot. Those gullible enough to believe it are probably the same people who say he shouldn’t be allowed to play because you don’t agree with his ideas but want the government to push affirmative action and force people to service and give preference to certain people even if they don’t particularly want to. Hypocrites and gullible idiots.

  12. Where the hell do you place fascism in “a culture of open debate and tolerance?”

    Do you think it makes him feel all intelligent and what not knowing that he shares pretty much the same beliefs of the average 14-year-old 4chan troll? Surprisingly, a good lot of them are actually more eloquent than he is.

  13. Seriously people, make your own judgements, but don’t deny reality.

    Boyd Rice
    Like Pearce and DIJ, Boyd Rice has consistently embraced fascism throughout his career as an experimental noise artist. In addition to wearing fascist uniforms and imagery and giving nazi salutes on stage, there is wide range of evidence indicating that Rice is a nazi at heart.

    Rice set up an explicitly fascist show on August 8th, 1988 in San Francisco called 8-8-88. “88” is a code phrase commonly used in fascist circles for “Heil Hitler” (H is the 8th letter of the

    Rice is also infamous for a photograph in which he is wearing the uniform of the neo-nazi American Front and sitting next to his friend Bob Heick, the leader of the American Front at that time.

    In 1986, Rice was a friendly guest on the television show hosted by Tom Metzger of WAR (White Aryan Resistance). When Metzger asked Rice: “So whereas modern music propaganda is an instrument of Jewish interest and Black and so forth, you see emerging a new propaganda form for white Aryans?” Rice replied:”Yeah, yeah.”

    Rice founded a group called the Abraxas Foundation along with Holocaust-denier Keith Stimley. The Abraxas Foundation published a newsletter called WAKE, which told its readers that “nature adheres to an Immutable Order” in short, humanity is democratic, nature is fascist.

    Rice has been known to sell at his shows and read as part of his performance from a racist, anti-Semitic book called “Might is Right”, by Ragnar Redbeard. “Might is Right” includes an afterword from George Eric Hawthorne, the former singer of the neo-nazi band RAHOWA (RAcial HOly WAr) and founder of the white power music label Resistance Records. The book was edited by Katja Lane, wife of the imprisoned David Lane, a neo-nazi member of the Order that committed several armored car heists and murdered Jewish talk-show host Alan Berg in the 1980s. Proceeds from the book go to support David Lane and similar white supremacist political prisoners.

    Though Rice claims not to be racist or neo-nazi, he does not deny that he is a fascist and social Darwinist. According to an interview by Misanthrope, he said: “I feel that I’m a fascist, but Nazi is a real specific term. I’m a fascist in the sense of the modern bastardised meaning of the word. I’m completely against democratic values and liberalism. (read the interview)

    As if that\rquote s not repugnant enough, Rice also does not conceal his hatred of women. As revealed in Misanthrope:
    Back to the rumours. Are you a misogynist?
    “Yeah.” Nods fervently for the record. [Laughs.] “Yeah, more and more all the time.”
    What makes you feel that way?
    “Just a lot of experience with women. I don’t think women deserve the same rights as men. I don’t think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they’re totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control.”
    And regarding his piece “R.A.P.E.”, which is appallingly pro-rape but allegedly tongue-in-cheek: “I was poking a bit of fun, but it’s like there’s more than a grain of truth in everything I said in there. I think all the stuff I said was basically true. Which is why it’s funny when it’s funny. And it’s why it upsets women, when it upsets women. Because, you know, they can’t really deny most of that stuff. ”
    “Well that’s why when women start having these intellectual arguments with me I say at a certain point, “Listen, I refuse to even argue with a woman.” They say, “Well, why is that?” and I say, “Because you overreact, you get all emotional, and fly into a tizzy.”

    Even Boyd Rice’s former lovers do not deny his racist and fascist tendencies. According to an interview with Rice’s former girlfriend Lisa Suckdog: “His audience is all Nazis and Satanists and they have their own hall and they do their Nazi racist stuff.

  14. this is like the time the dig booked that nazi band at baseball tavern then pulled their backing… after the fucking band had flown over here. from now on when people book they should have a new checklist, “are the bands affiliated with nazis or white supremacy in any way?”

  15. What trash. So he’s played around with imagery that offends you? Big Deal. This man has never been a physical danger to anyone, and that’s all these Arcade Fire-loving pansies at T.T.’s should be concerned about.

    SCREW TT’S

  16. I find it troubling that “Satanic ties” are thrown in to the reasoning behind cancelling Rice’s appearance as though Satanism is interchangeable with Nazi-ism, or otherwise lacking any need for qualification as to what, exactly, is wrong this religion. Despite hysterical, debunked fears of homicidal Satanic cults, Satanism is a religion that values open inquiry, scientific understanding, and the rational pursuit of happiness. Lucifer, as an iconic metaphor for the rejection of tyranny, embodies the ultimate anti-autocrat — certainly not a likely symbol for Nazi-ism to many who identify themselves as Satanists. Whatever problems T.T.’s and other detractors might have with Mr. Rice’s politics, I am saddened to see them resort to crass religious intolerance to express it.

  17. OK, sure, he’s a misogynist and a fascist. So frakkin’ what? How’s his _music_!? And why has Voltaire suddenly shriveled and dried up in this supposedly ‘free’ country?

    1. There are very rarely hip-hop shows at that particular venue, but they do in fact happen occasionally. To my knowledge, the last rapper they allowed to perform there was MC Lars, who has penned such violent, misogynistic songs as “If I Had a Time Machine, That Would Be Fresh” and “Make Way for Ducklings”.

    1. Seriously? Boston weak for standing up to a mysogynist that is pro-rape?
      Boston should stand up for not promoting hate now that is strong. Hate speech should not be protected by the free speech brigade.
      Boyd was a late addition and I applaud TT’s for stating they don’t want such a person in their club, Kudos to them almost makes me want not to ask for a refund and say add my money to the cause being supported tonight.
      Perhaps that is how people could show TT’s they did the right thing.

  18. Where was all this outage when they played Saint Vitus in Brooklyn last week? I was at the show and it was packed, with not one whiff of protest. I don’t know what the set-up is for other shows but Rice didn’t open; he’s IN Cold Cave. They played all CC songs for about an hour and that was it. Rice didn’t do much except put on his aviator shades and pound Tecates.

    1. Obviously he plays a synthesizer in a hateful manor that offends our delicate sensibilities. Long live hypocritical liberal trust fund babies.

  19. What an idiot move. Apparently folks who go to TTs wanted to see this show since it’s been SOLD OUT for weeks! The place caved to the usual leftist scumbags who can’t actually handle any independent ideas or free thought. Free speech? The show was canceled because the whackjob leftists have threatened and terrorized other venues into canceling and TTs didn’t have the balls to stand up and have a sold out show. Their replacing it with a benefit for a womens shelter is pathetic.

  20. if T.T.’s cancelled every show featuring an individual who supported rape culture there’d be no more shows! and it’d surely be the end of local and independent music in Boston, no?

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